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i'm just going to close with this, i think it's good but i think we need to pause to alk about, just for a minute or two if we could, the possibility of the impact, what this has, on food and farm production in this great country of ours. i yield back. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from pennsylvania. mr. dent: thank you, mr. speaker. at this time i'd like to yield three minutes to the gentleman from kansas, mr. moran. the chair: the gentleman from kansas is recognized for three minutes. . mr. moran: my message to my colleagues is that this is a bad bill for rural america and for agricultural producers and small businesses that support agture in rural america. and while it is a noble effort and everyone on the house floor
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would agree, we need to move in the direction of greater security in regard to chemicals. aspects of this bill as indicated by the gentleman from texas, mr. barton, really do not relate to security. they are about employee safety, workforce safety, the environment in which we work, environmental rules and regulations and in some fashion, the department of homeland security issues have been overcome, the positives that may be there from increasing our security are overcome by the detrimental costs associated with environmental and labor issues. this bill, particularly because of the i.s.t. provisions is a bill that is detrimental. and as mr. boswell indicated, increasing costs those thing matter to agricultural production today, especially when the economic circumstances in which our farmers find themselves is so difficult.
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anything that increases the cost is very damaging. the businesses that support them, they make a huge component of rural communities across my state, rural america and putting those folks out of business has a significant consequence to the future of the people i represent. i urge my colleagues from all across rural america to oppose this legislation for the damaging effect it will have on the people who produce food and fiber in this country and the businesses that support that effort. i yield back. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentlewoman from texas. ms. johnson: i ask unanimous consent to put this correspondence in the record. this is the association from clean water agencies -- the chair: the request will be provided in general leave. ms. johnson: i yield the remainder of our time to the chairman of the full committee. the chair: the gentleman from
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minnesota is recognized for 2 1/2 minutes. mr. oberstar: i thank the gentlelady and her subcommittee, holding the hearings and crafting the legislation. i want to just point out that our committee's role was to ensure that while homeland security department will set the security standards that will be e.p.a. that will manage them and publicly owned treatment works, locally owned, operated and managed, will carry them out. will not be done by homeland security. and i heard just a fragment of my good friend, colleague from iowa, raising concerns about the effect on agriculture. i want to emphasize while this
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is not directly our committee's jurisdiction, we made this very clear that the department of homeland security has indefinitely, indefinitely, completely exempted all end users of chemicals in agriculture. that means farms, ranches, crop, feed, livestock facilities from the chemical security program. it does not add agricultural facilities. we are very clear about that. we want to be sure in our discussions with the committee on homeland security that did not have any spill overof unintended consequences. only the largest terminals, manufacturers, wholesale distributors of manufacturing chemicals remain in the chemical security program, not farmers, not ranchers, not crop, feed or livestock facilities.
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the e.p.a. administrator has authority only to regulate security at wastewater and drinking water facilities, not on farms. not on ranches, not to the chemicals that they use. the legislation assures that e.p.a. will appropriately balance clean water, wastewater treatment with security needs of the nation except in standards set by the department of homeland security. does not give e.p.a. any authority over chemical facilities now regulated under other provisions or d.h.s. the chair: the gentleman from pennsylvania. mr. dent: there has been kmblet debate as to farmers that are currently exempt from
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regulations and will be exempt by the new regulations. the short answer is they will not. section 2120 of this bill requires the secretary to issue new regulations to replace the existing cfats regulations. no where in this bill does the secretary have the authority to exempt people, no where. if the majority disagrees, it would care to point to a particular provision that authorizes the secretary to grant exemptions, including the imentplementtation provisions, i would ask that they point to that provision. i would like to yield two minutes to the the gentleman from illinois, mr. shimkus. the chair: the gentleman from illinois is recognized for two minutes. without objection, so ordered. mr. shimkus: mr. speaker, it's all about jobs today. and this bill affects jobs in the economy. we are close to 9.8% unemployment in the manufacturing sector and here's
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we're going to put more additional burdens on those who creailt jobs. if you don't have employers, you don't have an employee. i appreciate my ag members coming down here, it's not about the end user, but about the producers of the chemicals. those are the folks whose costs are going to go up. i like to come down and talk about the hypocrisy of this whole debate especially the clean water act because if it was about security and i talked about this in the rules committee and no one has answer thd question on the health care bill, mr. speaker, your bill, page 1785, we say this, the financial and technical capability of a tribal organization or indian community to safely operate, manage and maintain a sanitary facility shall not be a present requisite to the provision of construction
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of sanitation facilities by the secretary. your health care bill says if the indian tribe cannot safely run a plant, we're go to go build you one anyway. we aren't worried about safety and security, page 1785. a financial technical capability of an indian tribe shall be exempt even if they can't operate safely a water treatment plant. so what you're doing in the health care bill exempting indian tribes who don't know how to manage a refinery, you are giving them protections in this health care bill, but in this bill, municipal water plants pay more for private water plants pay more, refineries pay more, indian tribes under your health care bill are exempt. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman is recognized for an additional 30 seconds. mr. shimkus: why would we exempt
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indian tribes from the ability to prove that they can actually operate a water pure fix plant? why would we do that? if safety and security is important, why would we exempt indian tribes? page 1785 of your bill in the health care reform. 300 pages on indian health, not one-page through the committee process. it's an abomination of the process. mr. dent: i reserve -- thank you, mr. speaker. you heard some very powerful arguments in opposition to this legislation. you know, and this i issue is all about jobs and i want to say one thing. it is a darn good thing that the house of representatives passed an extension of unemployment benefits because of this legislation people are go to go need them. with that said, people around this country are scared of washington, scared of the agenda
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and scared of cap and trade, the card check bill, they are afraid of the health care bill. so is it any wonder that unemployment rates are going the way they're going. the one thing about these assessments, contesting these assessments will be costly, too costly for small businesses to afford. estimates are that a substitution would take two persons two weeks to complete and cost between $10,000 and $40,000. a pharmaceutical product plant would take three to six persons up to 10 weeks to complete an assessment at a cost up to $500,000. laundry facilities already regulated by on or abouta would require -- osha would take six to eight weeks at a cost of over $1 million. 59% of the facilities would be
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required to conduct these assessments and employ 50 or fewer people. mandating i.s.t. will be devastating. according to a california fertilizer manufacturer, eliminating the use of pneumonia could cost up to $15,000. this would be passed onto the consumer. on friday, the department of labor is expected to revise the unemployment figures. does anyone expect those figures to go down? we know what the answer may be. if i were to build a 20-foot high barricade that surrounded my facility on all sides -- the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. dent: yield back. the chair: for what purpose does gentlelady from texas rise? ms. johnson: i have no further requests for speakers and the designee of the chairman of the
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committee on homeland security, i move that the committee do now rise. the chair: the question is on the motion that the committee rise. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, the motion is adopted. accordingly, the committee rises. the chair: the committee of the whole house on the state of the union having had under consideration h.r. 2868 has directed me to report that it has come to no resolution thereon. the speaker pro tempore: the committee has had under consideration h.r. 2868 and come to no resolution thereon. pursuant to clause 8, rule 20, proceedings will resume on motions to suspend the rules previously postponed.
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votes will be taken h.r. 1849 by the yeas and nays, h.r. 3276 by the yeas and nays and house resolution 878 denofeo. first electronic vote is a 15-minute vote. the unfinished business is the vote on the motion the gentleman from illinois, mr. davis, to suspend the rules and pass h.r. 1849 as amended, on which the yeas and nays are ordered. the clerk will report the title of the bill. the clerk: h.r. 1849 a bill to designate the liberty memorial as a national world war i museum in kansas city, missouri as the national world war i memorial to establish the centennial commission to ensure a observeance of the centennial of world war i and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the question is will the house suspend the rules and pass the bill as amended.
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gentleman from maryland, majority leader, congressman hoyer, seek recognition? mr. hoyer: madam speaker, i ask for unanimous consent to speak out of order for one minute. the speaker: without objection, the gentleman may proceed. mr. hoyer: i thank the speaker. ladies and gentlemen, i rise with the extraordinarily sad and wrenching news that 12 of our people have been killed today by a gunman or more and 31 others were wounded. president obama called the
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incident a horrific outburst of violence and he went on to say these are men and women who made the selfless and courageous decision to risk their lives in the service of our nation. the president went on to say it's horrifying that they should come under fire at an army base on american soil. i know that all of us are extraordinarily saddened and shocked by this incident. our hearts, our minds, our prayers go out to the families of all of those whose lives have been lost and our prayers for their wholeness and health go out to those who have been injured. and now, madam speaker, i yield to congressman carter in whose district fort hood is located. the speaker: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mccarthy: i thank the gentleman for yielding.
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madam speaker -- mr. carter: i thank the gentleman for yielding. we've had a tragedy in my district. i'm sad to report that the latest report i have received from fort hood, we have 12 american citizens -- or americans dead. 32 wounded. they have all been shipped to a hospital in temple and they are calling for blood so there are obviously some very serious wounds involved in the wounded. there's one shooter that has been confirmed who has since died but he has been confirmed and there are two other people in custody. we do not know the nature of this attack but it is a serious attack upon our war fighters. these are the people at fort hood, most of whom have been deployed four times. so it is a real tragedy that these families are losing loved ones and i would hope that we could have a moment of silence not only for those who have died and those who are rounded -- wounded but also for their families. the speaker: mr. edwards wants to speak?
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mr. hoyer: i join mr. carter in asking us for this moment of silence and as we do, we remember all of those in our armed forces, whether they are here in america, they are in uniform or in civilian service in the defense of our country. obviously these brave sowls were the object as members of our armed forces and as we rise in a moment of silence to them we remember as well all of those brave men and women who are serving around the world to maintain peace, security and freedom. the speaker: members and those in the gallery will please rise and observe a moment of silence in memory of the victims of violence at fort hood.
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the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from virginia rise? >> mr. speaker, i rise to ask unanimous consent to speak out of order for one minute for the purposes of inquiring about this wednesday's schedule. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. cantor: thank you, mr. speaker. the house is not in order. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman will suspend. the house is not in order. the gentleman from virginia. mr. cantor: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i yield at this time to majority leader, the
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gentleman from maryland, so that he may inform the house on what to expect about this weekend's schedule and i yield. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman for yielding. ladies and gentlemen of the house, as the house well knows we are contemplating the consideration of the health care for all americans act on saturday. we will be considering the balance of the amendments on the chemical protection bill that we are now considering tomorrow. we will consider perhaps some other suspensions as well. my expectation is that on saturday we will convene at 9:00 in the morning. i expect to have five minutes a side as we usually do on friday and on the end of the week, not
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one minutes. we will then go to the rule on the health care bill. and then it is my expectation we will have consideration of the health care bill and the republican substitute. it's my expectation that if we are -- if we proceed apace and come to a vote and disposition on that piece of legislation, we will then adjourn saturday at whatever hour we complete our work and that the adjournment would be until the following -- on the 20th of november -- no, excuse me, it's the monday of the following week -- no, we'll be off next week, assuming we finish. if the 15th is a monday -- 16th.
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thank you very much. i appreciate all the help i can get. we will convene on the 16th at 6:30 p.m. and meet through friday of that week. it is my expectation as i have indicated that we would be off the following week which is thanksgiving week. that's my present plan which oft go awry as all of us know, but that is my present plan for the balance of the month. mr. cantor: mr. speaker, i thank the gentleman. just to clarify, i'd ask the gentleman, so members can anticipate a vote on final passage -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman will suspend. the house will be in order. mr. cantor: i'd like it ask the gentleman again, for point of clarification, our members can count on a vote on final passage on the health care bill on saturday and upon having done that can anticipate being able to leave some time saturday
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night or sunday? i yield. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman for yielding. that would be my expectation. again, i want to clarify and make sure everybody understands, it is our intent to finish the health care bill but assuming we finish the health care bill some time saturday, saturday night or early sunday morning, it would be my expectation there would be no further business until the 16th. mr. cantor: i thank the gentleman, mr. speaker, and i yield back.
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vote, the yeas are 409, the nays are zero. 2/3 being in the affirmative, the rules are suspended, the resolution is goode to and without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. the chair will recognize for
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one-minute speeches. the house will be in order. will all members take their conversations off the floor. members, please clear the well. will members please clear the well. the house will be in order. will all members take their conversations off the floor. for what purpose does the gentlelady from california rise? ms. chu: address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the gentlelady is recognized for one minute. ms. chu: i rise today to honor
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monica rodriguez. she was a wife, mother of three children and five months pregnant. monica went twice to a hospital with flu symptoms, including fever, congestion and cough. she was sent away with syrup. days later, she was admitted into intensive care and it was too late and she spassed away due to complications. she was a pregnant with from you-like symptoms. despite multiple visits to the hospital, she was denied treatment that could have saved her life. the center for disease control have said pregnant woman are at higher risk for severe complications from the flu and if the hospital had followed these guidelines, her tragic death could have been avoided.
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her husband wants others to know about his wife's death so they will receive proper care. in memory of monica rodriguez, i will introduce a resolution alerting people so no other person will needlessly die in this manner. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the house will come to order. all members, please remove your conversations from the house floor. for what purpose does the gentleman from minnesota rise? >> address the house for one minute, revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. paulsen: i rise to pay tribute to the idiana who won the state championship just last like. their final victory over a strong team continued a string
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of dominance by the program that has been one of the most successful athletic programs. the vick trial marked the is 13th consecutive tennis, which they have won 248 of their past 249 dual matches. led by their coach, they finished the season with a record of 24-0 in dual matches. to all of the students, coaches and parents, i offer my congratulations on a great accomplishment and impressive run of championships that is a tribute to everyone involved. the streak is still alive and i'm proud to represent a school with such a long-standing commitment to success. and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from illinois rise? >> permission to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without
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objection. >> i rise today to honor the life of brappedon boward and support cancer education to fight the most common cancer in young men. brandon was a star basketball player. although he had been active in sports and had annual physical examples, his cancer went undetected for two years. during his illness he dedicated himself to the warn signs of testicular cancer. he lost the battle at the young age of 19. i stand here today to share with you brandon's story. madam speaker, with the support of senator jacobs, they lobbied the state assembly to teach the signs and symptoms of cancer and encourage screenings for male
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athletes. when governor pat quinn signed brandon's law, i commend their tragic loss of their son into the opportunity to save the lives of young men. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? mr. smith: permission to address the house for one minute and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. smith: a recent poll shows that 68% of u.s. voters oppose the creation of sanctuary cities that give safe haven to illegal immigrants and 5-2 margin say such policies lead to an increase in crime. not only are these cities unpopular but illegal and prohibited in the illegal immigration reform and responsibility act of 2006. but the obama administration has not held any jurisdictions that have adopted such policies
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illegal. a recent poll found that 58% of respond events disapprove of the president's handling of illegal immigration. and numbers aren't going to be helped if taxpayers subsidize illegal immigrants in the health care bill. the white house should heed the american people's advice and force our nation's immigration policy. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from tennessee rise? mr. cohen: address the house for one minute. this weekend this house will be the scene of the most important debate since 1965 and that is health care, putting our country on a path where it should have been in the 20th century but cut catching up. the aarp is endorsing the bill.
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my local alternative pay for the memphis flyer had a feature story on young people. most young people don't have health insurance and think they don't have the jobs and can't stay on their parents' policy. when this bill passes, young people will be able to stay on their parents' health insurance policy until they are 27. most parents don't libling the idea of their children not having health insurance. this will help the young and old and all of america. it is indeed america's bill. i will proudly vote for it. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the chair lays before the house the following personal requests. the clerk: leaves of absence requested for mr. patrick murphy of pennsylvania for today. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the request is granted. for what purpose does the gentleman from tennessee rise? >> i ask unanimous consent that today following legislative business and any special orders
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heretofore entered entered into, the following members may be permitted to address the house and include extraneous material, moran, poe, november 7 and november 12. jones november 7 and 12, five minutes each, roe today, duncan today, ros-lehtinen, november 7 for five minutes and goodlatte today, five minutes. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. for what purpose does the gentleman from washington rise? mr. mcdermott: i ask unanimous consent that today following legislative business and any special orders heretofore entered into, the following members may be permitted to address the house for five minutes to revise and stepped their remarks and include therein extraneous material, mr. towns of new york, ms. woolsey of california, mr. bishop of new york, mr. defazio of oregon, mr. mcdermott of washington, mr.
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sestak of pennsylvania, ms. kaptur of ohio, ms. chu of california. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. under the speaker's announced policy of january 6, 2009 and under a previous order of the house, the following members are recognized for five minutes each. mr. burton of indiana. . for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? mr. poe: request permission to take mr. burton's time. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. poe: there are brand new ways to tax people in this federal health care bill. according to the americans for tax reform, these new health care tacks will affect everyone. there are at least $700 billion in taxes in this takeover. it taxes small businesses, it taxes individuals and for the first time in history, congress is going to require individuals to buy something. if this health care bill passes, citizens will be required to buy government approved health insurance and
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if they don't buy that government-approved health insurance, they'll have to pay a criminal fine that violates the fifth amendment clause or fifth amendment of the united states constitution, the due process clause. if someone owns a small business, they would be required to pay about 3/4 of the cost of health insurance for their employees. whether they can afford it or not. employees would be required to pay the rest of the government-required health insurance, whether they could afford it or not. and the government decides what a person can afford. employers and employees who don't buy the government-approved insurance have to pay a fine. there's also a new tax hike on flexible spending accounts and health savings accounts. right now, people can put as much pretax money as they want into one of these accounts to help pay for insurance. these accounts will get a $1.3 billion new tax. the new government-run health care bill won't let anyone buy over the counter drugs out of
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these accounts and all the medicines that had been made easier to buy without a prescription are now going to be taxed. now why, madam speaker, would the government discourage people from taking care of themselves and having these accounts? the new health care bill also makes other legal tax deductions now illegal. this new tax is called the economic substance doctrine. under this new health care bill the i.r.s. would be able to decide what a person was thinking when they bought something and deducted it from their income tax as a business expense. what that means is my friend sammy mayhan in baytown, texas, buys a new wrecker for his tow truck business and writes it off as a business expense. the i.r.s. would be able to decide what he was really thinking when he bought that wrecker truck. if the i.r.s. decides he bought it just to go fishing in it, they won't allow the tax writeoff and the i.r.s. decides what he was thinking, not what
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he says. the i.r.s. is presumed to know what he was thinking when he lawfully wrote off that truck as a business expense. these thought police may not approve his tax deduction. it not only penalizes him for his thoughts but also for what the government thinks his thoughts were. what he was thinking when he bought that wrecker truck anyway. having tax thought police is strange enough but what this will do in a health care bill in the first place makes no sense. this ought to be in a separate piece of legislation to begin with. do the taxocrats think people will go out vand a heart replacement to write it off their income tax? there's a new tax on medical devices, a 2.5% tax on things like pacemakers and wheelchairs and hip replacement devices and new heart valves, tax deductions for these will be outlawed under this bill. they could not only deny
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deduction for the heart replacement, but could turn around and tax the new heart as well. people are hurting out -- the new heart valve as well. the people can't even afford all these new taxes and seniors can't afford to have a half trillion dollars cut out of medicare. the government takeover of heather is -- health care is just in time for thanksgiving. hopefully the american people won't be the turkey served up on the plate of government-run health care reform. that's just the way it is. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. mr. towns of new york. ms. woolsey of california. the gentlelady is recognized for five minutes. ms. woolsey: thank you, madam speaker. the last eight years have taught us a very hard lesson. there is no military solution
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to afghanistan. escalating the war by sending in tens of thousands more troops will not defeat violent extremism in that country. that's why i urge president obama to change the mission in afghanistan. we must abandon the military-only strategy that has failed us and that we must begin to emphasize humanitarian aid, economic development, reconstruction, better health care, and education. these are the tools that the afghan people need to improve their lives and to reject extremism. nicholas chris tauf of "the new york times" wrote a column last week entitled more schools, not troops. his article makes the case for changing our mission very well. in his column he writes that investments in education, health, anding a cull have a better record of stabilizing
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societies than military solutions, which have a pretty dismal record. education is especially important, he says. he argues that schools are not a quick fix but we have abun dan evidence that they can over time transform countries. he gave pakistan and bangladesh as examples of that. the united states has spent $15 billion in pakistan, madam speaker, since 9/11. mostly on military support. yet pakistan is more unstable than ever and al qaeda has found a home there. meanwhile, bangladesh, once part of pakistan, has made major investments in education, especially for girls. this has spurred economic growth which has helped keep al qaeda out of that country. christoph also writes, when i travel in pakistan, i see evidence that one group, the
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extremists, believe in the transformative power of education. th

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